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I'm Joe and we're the UFO Bros and we're

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here with Travis Taylor from Skinwalker

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Ranch also lead scientists on the uaptf

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report is that correct that's that is

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true I was the chief scientist for the

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UAP task force that's absolutely

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incredible I wish you could share with

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us what the public isn't seeing is there

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anything worth worth uh well you know I

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can't I can't violate the

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non-disclosures in my security clearance

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and stuff that I have but what I can

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tell you is it was a purely 100 serious

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uh investigation and here's the thing a

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lot of people don't know we were never

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funded

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the while the National Defense

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authorization Act was was signed and

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created and it did in 2020 say there

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were there was 20 million dollars to be

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appropriated the Senate Appropriations

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Committee never appropriated the funds

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so the task force everybody was working

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as other duties as a signed volunteer

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for the task force work uh and the only

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few people uh like Jay Stratton and

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there were two other people that

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actually they were transferred that that

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was their full-time job yeah I was still

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uh supporting my day job with the Army

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and Jay asked my boss to if the Army

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would volunteer my time to be on the

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task force so it was never funded and

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the public doesn't know that they they

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think we had all these millions of

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dollars you've heard it here all this

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stuff and yeah so that's uh something

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that I think uh is a misinterpretation

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right you know

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um with skin rocker Ranch I want to get

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to that with you because I know we've

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only got a little bit of time

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um what do you say is the and is there's

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a new season that's going to be coming

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in April yes in April are we going to

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see anything in April that um

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is going to change the Skeptics Minds

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well you know Skeptics are going to be

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Skeptics you know my dad used to tell me

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about Benjamin Franklin used to say a

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man convinced against his will is that

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another opinion still so the Skeptics

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are always going to be Skeptics even if

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the spacecraft landed on in their yard

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and came to their house for dinner uh

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but yes in season four uh last summer

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between July and November

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we were do we did experiments that were

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so

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complex the last experiment we did I was

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telling somebody last night that they

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were I counted there were 1016 moving

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Parts in the experiment there were so

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many people there so many things it was

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it was amazingly huge experiment and we

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got data pictures uh video of things

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that it's gonna just and we're not

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making there's nothing made up it's all

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in the moment when it's happening it's a

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big season and uh it's 14 episodes

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actually wow and every single one of

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them there's something just bizarre and

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fantastic that happened great so it

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sounds like we're getting more evidence

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yes this next coming season because I

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know the Skeptics they have their

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negative thoughts and or negative a

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Viewpoint of the sort of science you're

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doing there and I was saying like

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people are spending money to actually do

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science you think you'd want to support

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this endeavor yeah and you know Brandon

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fuel Brandon fugle we hope to get to

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meet him someday we have some basic back

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and forth

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um well we'll see if I can set that up

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Brandon's a really good we want to come

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out to Skinwalker Ranch we'll have to

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see it yeah and we don't let just

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anybody there because number one there's

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an experiment going on and it's in and

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it can be dangerous so well maybe

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someday yeah maybe someday

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um well shall we move on to what we

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wanted to show you which is sure

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um in 2008 a UFO crashed in Needles

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California

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yeah it's the most recent crash that

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we've heard of and so we actually worked

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with a land surveyor that had detailed

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maps of the approximate area that this

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object crashed it came screaming out of

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the sky in the middle of the night blue

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light crashed on the banks of the

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Colorado River wow yeah the whole city

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or the whole town of needles saw it

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coming and crashing so we were able to

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kind of you know zero in on the

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approximation to like where it might

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have crashed and we found this

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Joe you want to tell them about it

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yeah it's a

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we went we went to the surveyed site

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where they said that the uh the crash

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had happened and we went out and went up

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took our metal detectors and we went and

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we checked around we checked on this one

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area and was this piece of weird metal

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that we pulled out of the ground no

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kidding let's see it yeah

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you guys checked it for radiation and

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anything everything yeah we used to

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not that

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we just would love to get your opinion

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on anything strange or weird about it

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because we did show this to astronaut

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Mark Kelly and he said that um the

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yellowing on this side sometimes could

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indicate that Metal's been to space

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that's what he had explained to us yeah

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I agree with this right here so did you

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guys hit it with a torch or anything no

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no so I think I need to figure out what

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it is but this this is was hot enough

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that it became multiple

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so that right there is clearly it got

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really really hot right here

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it you know it doesn't just from looking

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at it doesn't uh look like anything

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exotic uh but I can't say that for real

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without taking scientific measurements

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right right we need to hit it with a

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x-ray uh fluorescent spectrometer to see

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what it it actually is made of it it it

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feels like it's got a maybe 10 in it

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kind of like solder okay and uh in this

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oxidation though looks more like it's

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aluminum uh it's not copper I'm pretty

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sure it's not copper so and and where

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did you get this I mean who what's the

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the the

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it we pulled it out of the sand you

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literally dug it out yeah we've

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literally dug it out of the ground and

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this is where the alleged event happened

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right they didn't crashed we're just

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wondering if let's say even if it isn't

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uh it wasn't an extraterrestrial crap

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but maybe even just something from one

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of the um aerospace companies so if it

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were a rocket or a uh spacecraft or

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something like that they would have

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certainly come to uh collect it right I

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guess so yeah and they could have missed

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a part this does actually you know now

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that you mention it I've built Rockets

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out of thin material about like this and

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uh you make it in a structure called

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Monaco where the it's like a balloon so

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the fuel when you fuel it up it makes it

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rigid you know it can stand on a full

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Coke can oh yeah but if you if you empty

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it and you stand on it it'll it'll

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collapse yeah so it's possible this was

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part of a rocket tank a spacecraft

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structure or something but it clearly

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this is the most interesting part to me

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it was clearly hot enough to become

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molten because that's where it got hot

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and melted and ran yeah and we noticed

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there's no scorching and it's almost as

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if it blew off something is what we

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thought maybe and it looks torn right

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yeah and wow does this look like it's

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rolled over and crimped right why why

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that so I find it it's intriguing I

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would uh I would suggest you guys take

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it to a university that has a an xrf is

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what the machine is called a little

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handheld looks like laser gun and it'll

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tell you what elements are in it and

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that's an acceptance we have one out at

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the ranch uh if you guys ever come out

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the ranch bring it with you if you ever

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make it out there yeah yeah that's our

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next step we were figured well before we

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actually like invest any money let's

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have an expert take a look and see you

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know somebody who deals with flying

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Rockets yeah like the Rocket Man it

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could be part of a rocket or an aircraft

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or spacecraft but it got so hot it makes

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me think that maybe it was part of a

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rocket motor and it was near the engine

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or the engine malfunctioned or whatever

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and it got super hot right there and

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melted it and that's why it weakened and

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blew up and crashed probably right but

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it could be anything so I I would

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recommend uh and you can take it to

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University they'd probably do it for

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free uh you think so yeah I think I

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think if you took it to University they

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would look at it and tell you what it is

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okay okay that's what we'll do yeah well

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that's pretty much the interview all

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right guys well hey I appreciate it yeah

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thank you very much enjoyed it thanks

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for showing me that that was interesting

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that's that's probably the most exciting

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thing will happen today all right

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hopefully thank you nice to meet you

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brother yeah yeah and this is for you oh

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wow if you want to find us on Twitter

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we're there yep real UFO Bros thank you